WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
37%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



AKA ERNIE 6:52 Fri May 22
phil brown "sams being let go "
Sams old assistant just being interviewed on talksport said that sam is being let go.

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AKA ERNIE 1:26 Sun May 24
Re: phil brown "sams being let go "
Last 20 yrs either semi v boro or 2nd leg v ipswich at home when daily scored

Slow_Joe 1:20 Sun May 24
Re: phil brown "sams being let go "
I saw Phil Brown last night and he said Sam was going. . He also said my mate had nice teeth. Make of that what you will...

Baggins 1:16 Sun May 24
Re: phil brown "sams being let go "
T - Your argument is fundamentally flawed. The idea that clubs have a choice of relegation playing decent football or survival while boring everyone to death is ridiculous.

How about half decent football AND doing alright? Which is what we have done for the majority of our history and which lots of clubs all up and down the football pyramid manage to do.

As for the greatest day? It certainly wasn't with the current manager in charge.

Johnson 1:16 Sun May 24
Re: phil brown "sams being let go "
As opposed to writing the game off and basically throwing it against the mighty Nottingham Forest, Mr T?

Mr T. 1:15 Sun May 24
Re: phil brown "sams being let go "
Ah, the plucky loser argument finally emerges!

Came along, gave it a go, lost, but gave it a right go, against the mighty Liverpool as well....

AKA ERNIE 1:13 Sun May 24
Re: phil brown "sams being let go "
Mr t carrol hardly played this season either when we were knocking it around and then hoofing it since november.
So has sakho not played since nov then.

Liv man c games at home were superb thats not the point he reverted to type the minute nolan was fit .

If you cant see that then youre a fucking tool

The Kronic 1:13 Sun May 24
Re: phil brown "sams being let go "
Mr T. 1:04

HAHA you're mental. Semi final v Boro as it goes.

Mr T. 1:13 Sun May 24
Re: phil brown "sams being let go "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnWRYZzVAk8

That's me done on the subject - whatever happens tomorrow, thanks Sam - you rescued our club when we most needed it and put us back on the road to recovery.

Even if you hate him, watch the above and try not to smile.

Johnson 1:08 Sun May 24
Re: phil brown "sams being let go "
Mr T. 1:04 Sun May 24

Mine wasn't the play off at Wembley. Again, lazy argument.

I felt more pride getting to the FA Cup Final playing GOOD attacking football and giving it a go.

BRANDED 1:06 Sun May 24
Re: phil brown "sams being let go "
T

I think the argument is

1. You pay £50 you want to be entertained.

I agree that being entertained in the premier league is better than the championship but some claim the season in the championship was more fun.

If it was a tenner I guess the attitude may be slightly different. If the players and staff were not earning megga wages maybe they would just expect decent football but I doubt it.

Mr T. 1:06 Sun May 24
Re: phil brown "sams being let go "
8 wins in 2009/10 and 7 wins in 2010/11

Mr T. 1:04 Sun May 24
Re: phil brown "sams being let go "
One last thing for everyone - what was your greatest day as a West Ham fan over the past 20 years?

And then ask yourself who was Manager at the time.

Johnson 1:03 Sun May 24
Re: phil brown "sams being let go "
How did you calculate that 19% by the way Mr T?

Did you lump in Zola and Grant together?

Mr T. 1:02 Sun May 24
Re: phil brown "sams being let go "
Johnson, there is a massive fucking difference in the 19%/25% argument though isn't there, certainly in terms of the way our football club runs in the future.

It's called relegation. And 25% has been enough to comfortably avoid this. 19% was not.

We seem to have forgotten all about the prospect of that this season and what the subsequent loss of over £100 million a season to the club would involve. That's one achievement Allardyce has had over everyone, whatever they think of him.

Still as long as we are playing attractive football who cares what division that's in eh?

The other day someone made a comment asking whether Newcastle fans would want Sam back - the more prescient question surely is whether Bolton fans would. I suspect we all know the answer.

Baggins 1:00 Sun May 24
Re: phil brown "sams being let go "
T - I have no problems with occasionally grinding out a result. Its no occasional though is it?

And I fundamentally disagree that you have to play how we have for the majority of the last four seasons to finish mid table.

ted fenton 12:55 Sun May 24
Re: phil brown "sams being let go "

Let's remember football is a game, which people should find enjoyable and entertaining.

NO ONE expects us to be Barcelona, NO ONE would prefer us to be Newcastle (another lazy analogy), people expect us to look like we WANT to win games and approach them in that manner.

Well said sir.

Johnson 12:54 Sun May 24
Re: phil brown "sams being let go "
Firstly, I wasn't recalling any glorious era under anyone.

I was pointing out a surprisingly poor record of wins in the Premier league over the last 75 games.

Whatever happened or didn't happen under Grant or anyone else is completely IRRELEVANT to the debate about BFS.

However, Mr T. you have demonstrated you are exactly the sort of chump the like likes of Allardyce thrive on.

Your countenance to the stat, is simply "well it was better than Grant and Zola". It is this outrun the slowest person only and you'll be alright approach which means dullards like you will always be happy with mediocrity PROVIDING you can fall back on someone being shitter than you.

19% was not good enough just as much as 25% is not good enough, out of a sample of 75 it's not much of a difference anyway.

I don't know if people think they're being clever by promoting this treading water hoping for people to be worse approach but what they're ultimately doing is being very lazy and are lacking in any form of ambition or joie de vivre.

Let's remember football is a game, which people should find enjoyable and entertaining.

NO ONE expects us to be Barcelona, NO ONE would prefer us to be Newcastle (another lazy analogy), people expect us to look like we WANT to win games and approach them in that manner.

wrighty 12:44 Sun May 24
Re: phil brown "sams being let go "
They were injured on Boxing Day?

Mr T. 12:41 Sun May 24
Re: phil brown "sams being let go "
Ernie - were you enjoying the first half of the season, before we lost our two main strikers to long term injuries?

Baggins - I understand your sentiment but football just doesn't work like that. Mid table teams are there because they can occasionally grind out a result. Dont get me wrong this isnt pretty stuff and is dull to watch - Stoke seem to have perfected it, which tells you all you need to know, but unless we can really step up a gear in terms of our financial muscle, this is where we are aiming to be.

Entertainment was never my point, and I suspect there are a few who would rather be Newcastle than us today - at least we would be getting an exciting end to the season. But they will all be calling for the head of the new Manager again if next season, it is us, irrespective of how pretty the football is.

The "19% bit better comment" was not an aspiration - it was an answer to Johnson who seems to recall some golden age of glorious football under Redknapp or Zola or Roedar or Curbishley or Grant or even Pardew (who, let's remember, refused to play Tevez or Mascherano).

The Kronic 12:25 Sun May 24
Re: phil brown "sams being let go "
It's a bit better than the 19% win rate we had in the two years before Allardyce took over.

__________

Is this seriously the best fatso's admirers can conjure up? 'We're now a bit better than Zola and Grant's tenure'. Painful

Baggins 12:19 Sun May 24
Re: phil brown "sams being let go "
T - We dont currently have the resources to be top six. So I aspire us to be a mid table team, who attempt to play half decent football and are good to watch. The odd cup run would be nice, although obviously this depends on how a season is going and injuries.

Basically the club we have been for 99 percent of our history. We'll have good seasons, we'll have bad seasons.

What I don't want us to be is mid table while being boring and defensive, relying on tactics that involve conceding possession and territory for most of the game and hoping that we'll nick a goal from a set piece. Some games, that will happen, especially against better sides. But to have his philosophy game after game, season after season, will suck the life and enthusiasm out of the whole club.

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